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Title: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: [Admin] Ba$her on February 24, 2015, 11:14:09 PM
Just a quick heads up about this feature...

We really do appreciate your help in forum, it makes our life, game masters, easier. This feature is to show our appreciation by helping you gain points for helping others.

So here is the logic...

The more you become active and the more you help people in forum, the more chance others gives you Karma. You can exchange this Karma to Booster items in game, like to speed up your waiting time to finish a quest. We might add some other prizes in the future too so...

A forum account can be linked to multiple aeRO Accounts in aeRO. This feature can only be set once. So you will be given only one chance to link your forum account to your ingame account

We are now in process of coding this. The expected time for this release is in the middle of March. If you have anything in mind that can make this better, feel free to post them here.

 ;) ;) ;)
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Post by: D e b b i e on February 25, 2015, 08:51:07 AM
Nice
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: unforgetable on February 25, 2015, 08:53:00 AM
Wow ! Great Idea Admin ! I do have a question, what do you mean by booster items ? and your phrase " speed up your waiting time to finish a quest"
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: D e b b i e on February 25, 2015, 08:55:05 AM
frost charm, etc
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: jann153 on February 25, 2015, 09:43:48 AM
How about the automated agit king? Is this idea still on the process?or in the process of nowhere?hmm
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Post by: D e b b i e on February 25, 2015, 09:51:52 AM
im going to rule this
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: Kenni on February 25, 2015, 10:12:09 AM
Won't it be possible to someone create many forum accounts and karma up him/herself?
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: M i l k on February 25, 2015, 10:21:38 AM
Wow ! Great Idea Admin ! I do have a question, what do you mean by booster items ? and your phrase " speed up your waiting time to finish a quest"
Try to quest Almighty Staff, Fire Blazed Sword, Bishop Hat, and Frost Charm. All those quests have a waiting time before you can get the item. So theres the one use of the booster item, you can lessen the waiting time on a specific quest. As for the other uses of it, only the Admin knows it for now.

Won't it be possible to someone create many forum accounts and karma up him/herself?
I wonder about this too.

How about the automated agit king? Is this idea still on the process?or in the process of nowhere?hmm
I asked Admin about this. He said its on process. All we can do now is to wait for his announcement. Soon™
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: iBunny Up on February 25, 2015, 12:36:28 PM
NICE UPDATE KEEP IT UP BASHER!!  8)  8)  8)
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: [Admin] Ba$her on February 25, 2015, 02:00:18 PM
Won't it be possible to someone create many forum accounts and karma up him/herself?

Good point. You can only have 1 forum account linked to your in game accout. And that cant be change once its been set.

Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: cool-kid(Ivan) on February 25, 2015, 02:14:05 PM
୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨ AGIT KING OR WE RIOT୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨

So my karma is finally useful
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: Kenni on February 25, 2015, 02:16:02 PM
Won't it be possible to someone create many forum accounts and karma up him/herself?

Good point. You can only have 1 forum account linked to your in game accout. And that cant be change once its been set.



I see, but what I mean was that, even tough I can have only one forum account linked to my game account, I can have other forum accounts to give karma to that one that is linked to the game.
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: macjhams on February 25, 2015, 04:36:04 PM
Won't it be possible to someone create many forum accounts and karma up him/herself?

Good point. You can only have 1 forum account linked to your in game accout. And that cant be change once its been set.



I see, but what I mean was that, even tough I can have only one forum account linked to my game account, I can have other forum accounts to give karma to that one that is linked to the game.



I think you have a point, its like a point farming like in WoR, better to solve it now before implementing it.
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: Jungkook ~ on February 25, 2015, 10:44:47 PM
reset to Zero the karma in forum accounts.. to be fair IF this would be implemented..
their is a KARMA thread in the past... just post anything then they will give you karma...
Show content
http://aerogaming.org/forum/index.php?topic=13342.285
20+ pages KARMA THREAD

Show content
http://aerogaming.org/forum/index.php?topic=12181.0
90+ pages KARMA THREAD

Show content
http://aerogaming.org/forum/index.php?topic=17037.0
200+ pages KARMA THREAD

and many more karma threads....

Also those who have many friends here in forums will just give their +1 KARMA to their other friends EVEN without helping... 

Their maybe a conspiracy even wihout your friends... Just ask other forum users to give you karma and in RETURN they will give you KARMA... WIN WIN scenario

* edited: and in RETURN you will give them KARMA...
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: D e b b i e on February 26, 2015, 04:51:48 AM
I got mine legit
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: macjhams on February 26, 2015, 04:57:52 AM
Anyway this is not implemented yet but soon to be, better to look at any possible problems regarding this before implementing it. To look forward it is a nice update but be sure to make it 100% fix, that no one can abuse it.
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: unforgetable on February 26, 2015, 05:05:26 AM
Isn't it before you can karma someone up , you need to have atleast minimum of a 100+ post ?
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Post by: Thatguy on February 26, 2015, 05:50:14 AM
Isn't it before you can karma someone up , you need to have atleast minimum of a 100+ post ?

That isn't a barrier when you have people like Debbie who reply to every topic on the forum daily even though she has nothing productive or useful to say just so every thread says "Last post by Debbie" or so she can have high post count. She's the new heyitsmekim.
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: Kenni on February 26, 2015, 08:51:52 AM
Yes, the forum karma are now working.

Some changes has been made by the following
- 10 post are needed to use the karma system.
- 12 hours interval to karma someone again.

If you find any bugs, please email them to support@aerogaming.org.

Regards,

aeRO Gaming Artificial Entertainment.

I think it's just 10 posts.

But I guess that's a good idea to make it a 100, if it isn't like that yet. This may work as an incentive for people to participate more in forum discussions.

It's not that easy to reach this count imo. We can't use Debbie as an example, she's is way ahead of the curve when it comes to post in this forum.
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: Thatguy on February 26, 2015, 12:17:35 PM
How is it not that easy? Have you seen what she posts in threads? Most of her posts are usually 1-5 words and most of the time it's junk. Go look at her profile and you'll know what I mean. It's mostly just spam.

http://aerogaming.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=30962 (http://aerogaming.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=30962)

The fact is that post count as a requirement is pointless when people aren't required to make constructive posts. She isn't the only member who does this. Many forum users post useless things whenever they get a chance just for the sake of getting post count. The only thing having a post count restriction would do is encourage more of this kind of spam.
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: 박지민 on February 26, 2015, 03:01:15 PM
How is it not that easy? Have you seen what she posts in threads? Most of her posts are usually 1-5 words and most of the time it's junk. Go look at her profile and you'll know what I mean. It's mostly just spam.

http://aerogaming.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=30962 (http://aerogaming.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=30962)

The fact is that post count as a requirement is pointless when people aren't required to make constructive posts. She isn't the only member who does this. Many forum users post useless things whenever they get a chance just for the sake of getting post count. The only thing having a post count restriction would do is encourage more of this kind of spam.

For the spammers, they will certainly get infractions. Also, just an idea, whenever you get infractions in forum, a certain % of your karma should be reduced. BAM! Bye, bye, bye spammers!

---

Also, about resetting the karma? Excuse me but no. There are legit users who gained honorably their karma. I don't think it is fair for those.
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: Jungkook ~ on February 26, 2015, 11:29:19 PM
Then it is not fair for those who got their karma in KARMA THREAD...
Show content
http://aerogaming.org/forum/index.php?topic=13342.285
20+ pages KARMA THREAD

Show content
http://aerogaming.org/forum/index.php?topic=12181.0
90+ pages KARMA THREAD

Show content
http://aerogaming.org/forum/index.php?topic=17037.0
200+ pages KARMA THREAD

ALSO look at my KARMA?? I helped 10+ problems and answered several questions... BUT my KARMA is 3.. Their is a problem here... You need to be popular just to give someone a karma??? or need to say GIVE ME 1 KARMA IF I HELP?

BTW I dont need that karma.. I just want to help... and I am speaking in behalf of the forum users who help others and no given karma to them...
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: M i l k on February 27, 2015, 01:12:37 AM
When you help, dont expect something in return.

I, myself, never expected to gain some Karma. But guess what? Suddenly, I have 15.  :D
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: Krey on February 27, 2015, 03:15:21 AM
Hi, GM Basher! I can't log in! Failed to connect?  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: M i l k on February 27, 2015, 04:04:26 AM
You're in the wrong thread. But anyway, you can refer to this post - http://aerogaming.org/forum/index.php?topic=38602.msg354883#msg354883 (http://aerogaming.org/forum/index.php?topic=38602.msg354883#msg354883)

The server is fine. It is just some players experienced connection issues nowadays.
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: Krey on February 27, 2015, 04:40:45 AM
I Have my pingzapper! But when I log in! It cost Not Responding then forcely Close! :/
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: Jungkook ~ on February 27, 2015, 09:31:46 AM
When you help, dont expect something in return.

I, myself, never expected to gain some Karma. But guess what? Suddenly, I have 15.  :D


and I think you got that 15 or maybe 10 when you got promoted being one of aeRO staff because you need to have a name to give you karma after you help them..

I am not agitated for karma... Others might misunderstand me by your reply "When you help, dont expect something in return. "


Just bring back to ZERO the KARMA... just for fairness.. and we will see many will HELP here on FORUMS...
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: M i l k on February 27, 2015, 10:51:34 AM
What? I didn't understand but nevermind.

Just saying buddy, I posted it because of the way I understood your post. Well, it's unavoidable sometimes to expect something in return.
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: cool-kid(Ivan) on February 27, 2015, 11:22:23 AM
Implement a separate special karma that can only be given by the staff when you've posted something useful.
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: D e b b i e on February 27, 2015, 08:13:21 PM
ivan stop being a nerd
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: [GM] Phantasmagoria on March 03, 2015, 10:36:18 PM

I like Ivan's idea. I like nerdy comments. *wink*


As for resetting the karma, I genuinely believe that some of our forum-ers worked hard in gaining karma. Now, the problem here is that, in forums, there is a variety of users*:


1- the announcer/moderators aka the aeRO staffs who updates/supports users
2- the passive aka I randomly visit to check on updates and will never post
3- the troubleshoot/maintenance aka I only post if I error or can't log
4- the good samaritan aka I will help you because I want to
5- the wannabe samaritan aka I will help you in exchange of karma
6- the whiners aka I am frustrated of aeRO and complain without bringing any strong arguments nor being helpful
7- the i-know-it-all aka I talk as if I am better than anyone else
8- the spammer aka I just want to increase my posts
9- the trolls aka I just want to piss you off but is powerless when ignored
10- the oportunist aka I took advantage of the karma thread
* If I forgot any, let's simplify it with etc.


 How do I know who really deserve to keep their karma?! I check their post statistics & latest posts. Of course, those who frequently spams are easy to identify as mentionned previously: one word post, emoticon(s) post, ^, off-topic post, etc. But we have to give credits to those who respond with a clear, structured & helpful answer. I respect those a lot and give karma when I see that.


Now, though it is really entertaining to read all the arguments and useless posts, in the end, the decision is in the hands of our admin.
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: Jugs on March 04, 2015, 01:23:25 AM
11. the grown-up gamers aka We only play to kill time and then go to bed after, coz we have work tom.
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: iBunny Up on March 04, 2015, 04:17:32 AM
11. the grown-up gamers aka We only play to kill time and then go to bed after, coz we have work tom.


NICE  ;)
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: iBunny Up on March 04, 2015, 04:20:53 AM
GM's how about CUSTOME ITEMS  ???  ???
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: Hadar on March 04, 2015, 06:17:17 AM
nice update

once it implemented Karma in forum must be set to 0

BTW GM take some time reading the ragnarok ideas and feedback thread
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: [GM] Phantasmagoria on March 04, 2015, 11:11:59 AM
nice update

once it implemented Karma in forum must be set to 0

BTW GM take some time reading the ragnarok ideas and feedback thread
Your suggestion concerning the Satanic Bone Helm was forwarded to the GM room. Also, as requested by iBunny Up, hopefully, it'll be effective for both Mayaan & Turbo.
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: Hadar on March 04, 2015, 04:11:50 PM
nice update

once it implemented Karma in forum must be set to 0

BTW GM take some time reading the ragnarok ideas and feedback thread
Your suggestion concerning the Satanic Bone Helm was forwarded to the GM room. Also, as requested by iBunny Up, hopefully, it'll be effective for both Mayaan & Turbo.

glad to hear that,thnx BTW ;)
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Post by: ricardo07 on March 05, 2015, 09:11:09 AM
Tkanks ya!
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: macjhams on March 06, 2015, 01:09:40 AM
When you help, dont expect something in return.

I, myself, never expected to gain some Karma. But guess what? Suddenly, I have 15.  :D


yep! never expect in return, you know guys when I was a new forum user way back in 2010 I was a newbie that I didn't know what are those karma for, honestly I just saw in my profile that I earn karma's hehehehe, the only thing here with this update shouldn't be abused by other forum user.
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: Hadar on March 06, 2015, 09:52:06 AM
if this updates was already in full implement make also an announcement in game so that more player can be encourage in aeRO forum like mayaan server only few player use forum
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: Jungkook ~ on March 07, 2015, 10:07:10 AM
then if you didnt expect something in return like KARMA...
Then dont implement this thing... useless KARMA HAHAHAHA!!!
KARMA for DECORATION?

and ALSO... why are you afraid to reset the KARMA??? We are helpful, RIGHT???


As for resetting the karma, I genuinely believe that some of our forum-ers worked hard in gaining karma. Now, the problem here is that, in forums, there is a variety of users*:
ONLY "some" worked hard for their karma while "MANY" worked hard for their karma in KARMA THREAD POST


Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: [GM] Phantasmagoria on March 07, 2015, 10:38:50 AM

^
I understand your point. I do agree that a lot of users took oportunity of the karma thread but not everyone. It is not because a majority did it that aeRO should punish the ones who worked hard to earn karma points. Keep in mind that I don't say it is okay to mis-used the karma points. However, would you accept to pay or to be punished for something you did not do/participate in? Would you accept that someone destroy your hardwork (something you put a lot of effort into)? Try to see both sides of the medal. Resetting the karma is an easy option but not the solution.


Again, I totally shared your concern here. The ones who should have their karma resetted are the ones who don't even post things to help others (spams, flames, etc.) but surprisingly have a lot of karma points. Those are the ones to blame but the the ones who have most of their posts in these sections: ragnarok player reports, aeRO system and ragnarok questions. User statistics is there for a reason.
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: cool-kid(Ivan) on March 07, 2015, 11:47:05 AM
then if you didnt expect something in return like KARMA...
Then dont implement this thing... useless KARMA HAHAHAHA!!!
KARMA for DECORATION?

and ALSO... why are you afraid to reset the KARMA??? We are helpful, RIGHT???


As for resetting the karma, I genuinely believe that some of our forum-ers worked hard in gaining karma. Now, the problem here is that, in forums, there is a variety of users*:
ONLY "some" worked hard for their karma while "MANY" worked hard for their karma in KARMA THREAD POST



Resetting the Karma is the best way you can think of? Try thinking outside the box for once as resetting it wouldn't make a difference. The system will still be prone to abuse and you will see a lot of players begging others for a karma.

This is why I suggested to implement an additional special form of Karma that can only be given by the staff. That way you solve most, if not , all the possible vulnerabilities.

Sure, I may have participated in one of those Karma threads and I couldn't really care less if they choose to reset my Karma. However, it wouldn't be fair for those who earned their karma through sheer amount effort by helping or posting useful topics.


@debbie

shut up
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: D e b b i e on March 07, 2015, 10:12:36 PM
I worked hard to get my karma, helping people and what do I get if the karma will be set to 0 after implementing it? Nothing? Wtf
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: Hadar on March 08, 2015, 03:22:04 PM
I worked hard to get my karma, helping people and what do I get if the karma will be set to 0 after implementing it? Nothing? Wtf

chillax its an open discussion,everyone can post there own opinion about this topic  ;)
dont post bad word to prevent infraction
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: D e b b i e on March 09, 2015, 12:11:11 AM
I didn't post badwords.
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: Kenni on March 09, 2015, 12:34:22 AM
Such a nice discussion, but we have to keep in mind that we don't even know with precision the rewards for this system yet. All this "hype" maybe for nothing.

And in the end, it's just as Neary said, it's up to Basher to decide.
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: macjhams on March 09, 2015, 01:26:04 AM
The point is, before implementing it better to block or better to make it a 100% fix, that no one can abuse it.
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: D e b b i e on March 09, 2015, 03:04:30 AM
yea
Title: HELP AT MY PRIEST
Post by: flocie21 on March 09, 2015, 08:48:44 PM
can someone give me some best set for priest?  ??? ??? ;)
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: Bajong27 on March 10, 2015, 03:41:53 AM
Bring Back AGIT KING GOGOGO ^__^ !!!
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: czedrick11 on March 10, 2015, 12:21:02 PM
HOLY YES I LIKE THIS 1 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: ibabymet on March 10, 2015, 12:35:03 PM
 ::) ::) ::) WOOWW.. .. GO GO GO Basher  .. > TAPA TAAL here !! aahahha
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: mission_lord on March 11, 2015, 03:29:55 PM
Nice
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Post by: D e b b i e on March 12, 2015, 10:10:42 PM
^
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Post by: Rensan ( Baguk ) on March 12, 2015, 11:13:58 PM
^
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Post by: Bajong27 on March 13, 2015, 08:35:58 PM
GM ??? Why the WOE Hours is Change to One Hour ??? :) But that was so SHORT hahaha 2Hours Was ENJOY :)  :( :( :( :( :( :(
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Post by: D e b b i e on March 13, 2015, 09:24:14 PM
^
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: Jungkook ~ on March 14, 2015, 11:56:26 AM
then if you didnt expect something in return like KARMA...
Then dont implement this thing... useless KARMA HAHAHAHA!!!
KARMA for DECORATION?

and ALSO... why are you afraid to reset the KARMA??? We are helpful, RIGHT???


As for resetting the karma, I genuinely believe that some of our forum-ers worked hard in gaining karma. Now, the problem here is that, in forums, there is a variety of users*:
ONLY "some" worked hard for their karma while "MANY" worked hard for their karma in KARMA THREAD POST



Resetting the Karma is the best way you can think of? Try thinking outside the box for once as resetting it wouldn't make a difference. The system will still be prone to abuse and you will see a lot of players begging others for a karma.

This is why I suggested to implement an additional special form of Karma that can only be given by the staff. That way you solve most, if not , all the possible vulnerabilities.

Sure, I may have participated in one of those Karma threads and I couldn't really care less if they choose to reset my Karma. However, it wouldn't be fair for those who earned their karma through sheer amount effort by helping or posting useful topics.


@debbie

shut up

Advantage If it is reset back to zero then many will help here AGAIN in FORUMS...

DISADVANTAGE: SPAM?? PRONE to ABUSE?
1. Give a minus karma to those who ask for Karma (3 times ask = BAN) and forum users can report them on SEPARATE FORUM = I mean separate topic from Players and Abuse Reports.
2. VOTE POINTS instead of KARMA POINTS
3. as I said "FEW worked hard for their karma while MANY worked hard for their karma in KARMA THREAD POST"...  IS IT ALSO FAIR who got their KARMA at KARMA THREAD POST???


Quote
special form of Karma that can only be given by the staff.
woooh... I hope their are MANY active staffs... Monitor this also.... Their might be a POWER ABUSE... I mean IF THAT STAFF is friend of THIS ONE PERSON then he might give him/her a SPECIAL KARMA witout EVEN helping...


I worked hard to get my karma, helping people and what do I get if the karma will be set to 0 after implementing it? Nothing? Wtf

If you are helpful then you have nothing to worry about... This are for the benefit of WHOLE forum players and not for yourself... hahaha

Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: [Admin] Ba$her on March 21, 2015, 12:02:33 AM
We will postpone the release date of this feature as there will be many changes needs to be made. We will also consider to put your ideas to these changes to avoid abuse to this system. For now, enjoy the Agit King Event. It is finally open again! Score counting starts now!
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: makemy on March 23, 2015, 08:34:15 AM
BETTER IF TAKE A LOOK @TICKET SUPPORT SYSTEM -_-
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: D e b b i e on March 24, 2015, 08:23:33 AM
^
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: gril on March 25, 2015, 04:44:37 AM
Good call postponing this feature, its highly abusable.
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: Hadar on March 25, 2015, 02:59:36 PM
We will postpone the release date of this feature as there will be many changes needs to be made. We will also consider to put your ideas to these changes to avoid abuse to this system. For now, enjoy the Agit King Event. It is finally open again! Score counting starts now!

good decision,sadly i cant perform in WOE just good luck  ;)
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: macjhams on March 25, 2015, 06:11:54 PM
 ;) Good decision to postpone this feature. Look at it side by side, front and back, and up and down, hehe. Release it if it is 100% and no one can abuse it. :-X
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: cool-kid(Ivan) on March 26, 2015, 03:46:11 PM
Resetting won't change anything, people will still find a way to abuse the system by asking others for karma and there will be no way to stop them because they will obviously ask privately

The only possible solution is to let the staff to handle this karma system themselves. If you've posted something useful then a karma will be given by one of the member of the staff.

Reset

Pros
 
Fresh start

Cons

Abusers
Not fair to those who helped
Doesn't really address any key problems

Special karma

Pros

Can only be implemented by the staff
Reduces risk of abuse by huge margin
Abuse is easily monitored
Abuse is easily dealt with

Cons

Abusive staff(unlikely)
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: gril on March 27, 2015, 06:09:30 PM
Resetting won't change anything, people will still find a way to abuse the system by asking others for karma and there will be no way to stop them because they will obviously ask privately

The only possible solution is to let the staff to handle this karma system themselves. If you've posted something useful then a karma will be given by one of the member of the staff.

Reset

Pros
 
Fresh start

Cons

Abusers
Not fair to those who helped
Doesn't really address any key problems

Special karma

Pros

Can only be implemented by the staff
Reduces risk of abuse by huge margin
Abuse is easily monitored
Abuse is easily dealt with

Cons

Abusive staff(unlikely)

10/10 will vouch for Staff Karma
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: Jungkook ~ on March 28, 2015, 12:01:09 PM
ONLY those who have HIGH karma DISAGREE to reset the karma...

- Like what I said

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advantage If it is reset back to zero then many will help here AGAIN in FORUMS...

DISADVANTAGE: SPAM?? PRONE to ABUSE?
1. Give a minus karma to those who ask for Karma (3 times ask = BAN) and forum users can report them on SEPARATE FORUM = I mean separate topic from Players and Abuse Reports.
2. VOTE POINTS instead of KARMA POINTS
3. as I said "FEW worked hard for their karma while MANY worked hard for their karma in KARMA THREAD POST"...  IS IT ALSO FAIR who got their KARMA at KARMA THREAD POST???

ADDITIONS:
4. Send message PRIVATELY for karma??? then CANCEL the INBOX "mailbox" or whatever it is called and I think ONLY FEW or 1/10 use this...

5. Aside from karma... a NEW KARMA namely "Staff karma" = ONLY the aeRO staff can give minus karma to those who ask for +karma and if ever they achieved -3 karma then their account in forum ban...  3 times ONLY to avoid SPAMMING or FLOODING...             
every post to ask for karma = minus 1 karma and 3 times posting for +karma = BAN

6. Their should be a HISTORY in karma.. Like web browsing history (site visited recently)... wherein you can see the history for ALL given KARMAs and staffs can check it... They can see who gives karma and if anything malicious then... Let them decide... BAN? minus karma? or whateveeeeeeeer



Their are many WAYS to counter all those who says "resetting karma IS USELESS"
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: [GM] Phantasmagoria on March 28, 2015, 01:35:34 PM
ONLY those who have HIGH karma DISAGREE to reset the karma...

As for those who has LOW karma AGREE to reset karma... Is that it?

None of us said it was useless to reset the karma. All of the previous posts are pros and cons. Number 6 is interesting: karma logs.
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: Jungkook ~ on March 29, 2015, 01:43:52 AM
ONLY those who have HIGH karma DISAGREE to reset the karma...

As for those who has LOW karma AGREE to reset karma... Is that it?

None of us said it was useless to reset the karma. All of the previous posts are pros and cons. Number 6 is interesting: karma logs.

I didnt say that... I ONLY said "ONLY those who have HIGH karma DISAGREE to reset the karma..." and NOTHING FOLLOWS


Here: He said "wouldnt make a difference" it is CONSIDERED useless
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Resetting the Karma is the best way you can think of? Try thinking outside the box for once as resetting it wouldn't make a difference. The system will still be prone to abuse and you will see a lot of players begging others for a karma.

Another one: he said wont change anything.
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Resetting won't change anything, people will still find a way to abuse the system by asking others for karma and there will be no way to stop them because they will obviously ask privately

Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: [GM] Phantasmagoria on March 29, 2015, 03:40:07 AM
Then that is so ridiculous. You talked for people who has high karma. You presumed that they are against it only because they have high karma. Your interpretation implies that those with low karma agreed to reset karma: A binary opposition just like on and off, pros and cons, left and right... Agree and disagree. If not, avoid speaking in our names. I have 210 karma that I have worked hard for it. I am willing to hear about all the pros and cons from the beginning.

Now, I respect your understanding of "wouldn't make a difference" and "it won't change anything". Apart from these expressions, their reasoning goes beyond the stigmatized word "useless". Imagine Admin Basher has decided to reset the karma. Some people would still find a way to abuse it even after all karma is reset to 0. That been said, their previous posts were to point out that it's not about resetting it or not but how can we find a way to avoid the abuse? That's my understanding of their point of view.
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: cool-kid(Ivan) on March 29, 2015, 05:14:15 AM
I never said that resetting it would be completely useless, I was saying that the disadvantages outweighs its advantages. Thus why I provided pros and cons.

Your suggestion is great for getting rid the abused karmas from karma threads. Having said that, I believe this is only temporary and therefore it wouldn't really solve the issues. As medicine pointed out, it is not about resetting it, it’s about finding a way to keep system away from exploitation
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: D e b b i e on March 29, 2015, 08:31:54 AM
^
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: J e e on March 29, 2015, 11:03:59 PM
bump
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: Jungkook ~ on April 01, 2015, 05:22:55 AM
I said AGAIN AND AGAIN "ONLY those who have HIGH karma DISAGREE to reset the karma... " END OF QUOTE..  it is based on their post and NOT PRESUMED they are against it because they have HIGH KARMA...

again and again NOTHING FOLLOWS... did I say "those who have low level karma agree to reset it?" Your just adding my QUOTE...

SPEAKING in your names??? in what part? I didn't mention any names... ONLY said "those who have HIGH karma" so i didnt mention any NAMES... Did I say Phantasmatk DISAGREE to reset the karma???


if they find a way to abuse it... THEN FIND A WAY also for not to abuse it...
as you can see on my post I myself find a way to counter abuses based on their post... If me myself find a way... then you staffs CAN do it MORE... if not then maybe LAZY...


Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: 박지민 on April 01, 2015, 08:56:16 AM
Just passing by...................

Lol. Phantasmatk. IMO, you are stubborn as a mule. *applaud you ironically* Thank you for trying hard. You still didn't get her point I think. You spoke in their names by saying most of people with high karma are against it (obviously, people with 100+ karma are high karma and that includes her and many other forum users). Do I need to quote you for that? Anyways... The point here isn't to point out who's against it or not but to discuss or search for a solution that would avoid any karma exploit.

......Bye, bye.
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: gril on April 01, 2015, 10:11:00 PM
Just passing by...................

Lol. Phantasmatk. IMO, you are stubborn as a mule. *applaud you ironically* Thank you for trying hard. You still didn't get her point I think. You spoke in their names by saying most of people with high karma are against it (obviously, people with 100+ karma are high karma and that includes her and many other forum users). Do I need to quote you for that? Anyways... The point here isn't to point out who's against it or not but to discuss or search for a solution that would avoid any karma exploit.

......Bye, bye.

0 Karma users unite!
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: P a i n on April 01, 2015, 11:07:11 PM
this is awesome :) i wanna play again. i wonder how helpful is that booster item for someone who will start from scratch
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: D e b b i e on April 02, 2015, 04:06:52 AM
^^^^
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: makemy on April 02, 2015, 09:48:30 PM
HELP PLEASE ? ! -_- GM PHANTASMAGORIA OR BASHER

MY ACCOUNT BAN FOR NO REASON -_-  :-X :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: Foris on April 02, 2015, 09:54:26 PM
HELP PLEASE ? ! -_- GM PHANTASMAGORIA OR BASHER

MY ACCOUNT BAN FOR NO REASON -_-  :-X :-X :-X :-X
Better submit a ticket about this matter.
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: janssen on June 22, 2015, 09:06:31 PM
how do you get booster item in the game itself?
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: jann153 on June 22, 2015, 09:14:45 PM
Wala pa yan ha..at hinde na yan matutuloy wag kayo atat!
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: iBunny Up on July 12, 2015, 07:57:33 AM
Just a quick heads up about this feature...

We really do appreciate your help in forum, it makes our life, game masters, easier. This feature is to show our appreciation by helping you gain points for helping others.

So here is the logic...

The more you become active and the more you help people in forum, the more chance others gives you Karma. You can exchange this Karma to Booster items in game, like to speed up your waiting time to finish a quest. We might add some other prizes in the future too so...

A forum account can be linked to multiple aeRO Accounts in aeRO. This feature can only be set once. So you will be given only one chance to link your forum account to your ingame account

We are now in process of coding this. The expected time for this release is in the middle of March. If you have anything in mind that can make this better, feel free to post them here.

 ;) ;) ;)



it would be 6months but still no update on this one!  :)  :)  :)  ;)  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: Booster item in game is coming soon.
Post by: Tousen on July 25, 2015, 03:32:36 AM
hehehehe that's AWESOME ::)